MyDD :: The party is still divided and I couldn't be happier

The party is still divided and I couldn't be happier

by thezzyzx, Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 02:56:36 PM EST

On my way to get some food today, I decided to put on the ol' Limbaugh show. I had given up my habit of listening to the other side during the primary season because our infighting was so fascinating but today seemed like a good time to check out their views.

While I'm sure that you'll be shocked, SHOCKED, to learn that once again the Democrats managed to nominate the most leftist candidate in the history of the Democratic Party, much worse than the last guy Limbaugh claimed was like that, I was more interested in hearing what he said about McCain. In short, Limbaugh does not like McCain and hated his speech.

The Republicans have a problem right now. Their ideas have been tried and found wanting by the majority of the public, but the base still believes that they'd win elections if they just said them louder. McCain knows that he can't win an election if he's tied to Bush, but his slight movements away from that raised the wrath of Limbaugh. Halfway through his Obama rant, he just stopped and went after McCain. Remember that the Republicans have had two months of honeymoon period already and their base is still not on board.

This is why I'm not too worried about our split. The fact is that we were arguing largely over tactics. Both camps have the same basic goals. Sure there will be some people who just can't pull the lever for Obama, but that's nothing compared to the Republican base who outright hate John McCain.

I think Obama and McCain will largely split the moderates. Both have an appeal that way. Beyond that though, the vast majority of the Democratic base is fired up by Obama. The Republican base? Not so much. One day after the primary season, we're already more healed than the Republicans. Barring a disaster, I think we do win the turnout game and therefore win the election. Fingers crossed.

Tags: General election, Republican malaise (all tags)

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Thank You (2.00 / 3)

I am glad someone is listening...so I don't have to. Went to RedState today and they didn't sound any happier about McSame's speechifying last night.

accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking

by Sychotic1 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:03:41 PM EST

Re: Thank You (none / 0)

Obama hardly have a half of democratic base, other half locked by Hillary

Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties

by engels on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:25:32 PM EST
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Re: Thank You (none / 0)

So you won't vote for Obama? And I can blame you if this war is still going on in 2016 and the recession gets deeper and the White House keeps conducting illegal wiretapping on our citizens? Just checking ... you keep nursing those hurt feelings, I'm more interested in fixing this country.

by Dan Conley on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:05:57 PM EST
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McCain has little ground for maneuver (2.00 / 2)

Wherever he decides to go to win additional votes, he angers a section of the party that is already deeply suspicious of him. He cannot be with Bush and he cannot distance himself from him, for example. It's very satisfying...

by Fairy Tale on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:04:31 PM EST

WOOF! (2.00 / 2)

Yep!

All the rancor in the D-party misses the main point:

The GOP is a pigsty.

This from a centrist Indie who watches both parties with an interest in potentially supporting them.

To repeat: The GOP is a slathering mess of acrimony and ennui.

The Dems will lose in Nov? Are you out of your minds? Sure, it's possible...

So is a monkey emerging from my colon.

But neither one would surprise me more than the other.

-chirs

"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer

by chrisblask on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:07:56 PM EST

Re: WOOF! (2.00 / 1)

For the record, have you swallowed whole any live monkeys lately?

Donate to Obama, Today!

by freedom78 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:16:59 PM EST
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Re: WOOF! (none / 0)

nope (not that I now of...). that's kinda my point...

"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer

by chrisblask on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:53:21 PM EST
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Re: WOOF! (2.00 / 1)

Well, I ask because I'd hate for you to make such a claim, and then for all of us to back you up on it, and then, suddenly, for a live monkey to hop right out of your ass, ya know?

That kind of thing makes us ALL look bad. :P

Donate to Obama, Today!

by freedom78 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:49 PM EST
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Re: WOOF! (none / 0)

:~D

I'm still giggling about the Bruce Almighty clip...

Think I'll run out and grab that movie right now. Could use a good laugh (something more belly-laugh than TexDarlin...)

"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer

by chrisblask on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:14:17 PM EST
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Never sat never (none / 0)

by grass on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:50:48 PM EST
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HAHAHAHA! ah ah ah, oh, gasp - HA! (none / 0)

Is that Bruce Almight?

Gotta get that one...

"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer

by chrisblask on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:08 PM EST
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Not only that (2.00 / 1)

but the Paulxors are beginning to jump ship to Barr.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:18:20 PM EST

Hallelujah! (2.00 / 3)

A pure Diary.

(breathe it in - that sweet, clean smell of childhood Summer memories...)

An actual discussion of GOP vs DEM. Savor this moment - we haven't had one like it for many months!

mojo cubed.

by xdem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:18:58 PM EST

The dominionists weigh in. (2.00 / 0)

From Christian Citizen Chat on RaptureReady.com:

Did anyone watch McCain's speech tonight?

Oh boy.

I noticed the camera didn't pull back very far. I wonder if there were even a couple hundred people there. When, when, when the audience DID clap, it sounded like 50 or so people, at most.

He was embarrassing to the party. I can't possible see how this guy is going to inspire anyone to vote Republican. He was like paint drying.

FOX news was trying to explain why his speech was so poorly delivered. they said he is having trouble reading the teleprompter, and is out of practice talking. Karl Rove even said it was just terrible.

And the response:

I'll say!

I watched it with total dismay and was more disappointed than ever I still cannot believe that he is our nominee. He reminded me a bit of Mr Rogers. I feel as tho we are living in a surreal world right now and now am listening to Hillary...does not look as tho she is giving up yet. So, maybe Operation Chaos is still going forward .
Blessings to all,
savedatcamp
aka proud Operation Chaos soldierette volunteer in Indiana

We've got nothing to worry about. And notice savedatcamp was an actual Operation Chaos voter in Indiana.

Swish. Nothing but net.

by GFORD on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:36:24 PM EST

Re: The dominionists weigh in. (none / 0)

You know, I've thought that RaptureReady would be a perfect place for us to do our own trolling. Why is McCain rejecting all of these wonderful Christian leaders whose only sin is telling the truth about Jesus?!? That sort of thing.

Beat McCain!

by thezzyzx on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:48:32 PM EST
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If you decide to do it let me know. (2.00 / 1)

I just lurk there from time to time to gauge how the religious right is feeling.

BTW: The comments were split between those who said the speech was awful, those who called people who said that trolls, and those who said being a good public speaker was not important in a president. But the majority agreed that the speech was awful.

Swish. Nothing but net.

by GFORD on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:29 PM EST
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Calloo Callay, O! Frabjuous Day! (2.00 / 0)

We're gonna slay the Jabberwock!

So nice to be focused on the tired candidate and ideas of the GOP for a change...

Onward!

Often wrong; seldom in doubt.

by Goober Pea on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:45:24 PM EST

One pro-McCain bumper sticker I saw.... (none / 0)

...was very telling indeed. It said:

"F*ck it. McCain '08."

This was on a pro-gun website that makes the NRA look like the Brady Campaign.

So yeah, the GOP's base are going to pull the lever, but they're not exactly embracing McCain. The crank-the-base, appease-the-middle formula they've been using for decades isn't going to work. Their base is too wise to the BS.

We need to work our asses off. Particularly, we need to work our asses off now to get an early advantage while the opportunity is there. But if we do that, given everything else ... we're going to just absolutely destroy McCain.

Finding God in a Dog

by maxomai on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:54:32 PM EST

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